Switzerland

des experiences pour controler la tete des gens????
http://educate-yourself.org/pnl/mindcontrolbetatesting01jun08.shtml

...et les télécoms seraient complices ? (j'ai pas tout lu)

arf il faudrait tester sur un autre peuple, y'a pas plus moutons que les Suisses, y'a rien à contrôler

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...et les télécoms seraient complices ? (j'ai pas tout lu)

arf il faudrait tester sur un autre peuple, y'a pas plus moutons que les Suisses, y'a rien à contrôler

il ne dit rien sur si les telecoms sont complices ou non....
a mon humble avis; ils s'en foutent (comme tous les autres dans d'autres pays)... ils sont la pour faire du fric, pas pour faire du "social"..... se soigner, s'entretenir c'est la responsabilité de chacun et pas la responsabilite des commerciants (on oublie ca souvent.....)

Regarde ce que j'ai trouve!!!!!


There is a saying in Switzerland which says that beauty pageants are held among cows, but not among women, because cows are nicer than women.

http://english.pravda.ru/society/stories/06-06-2008/105452-beautiful_girls-0

tsssss

bcp d'écrivains dans le temps disaient que c'était à... Lausanne qu'on trouvait les plus belles femmes du monde: à cause du mélange de nationalités (grande taille allemande, grands yeux italiens), à cause des nombreuses écoles, et aussi passque la ville est tellement en pente que tu restes pas grosse longtemps en habitant là-bas

et tu es Lausannienne?

(lausanoise)

non ! suis valaisanne

Citation :

CIA has access to Swiss transactions

The United States has confirmed it has been monitoring international financial transactions, including those in and out of Switzerland, for almost five years.

The Swiss government has remained quiet on the issue, but data protection experts and lawyers are concerned by Friday's revelations in the New York Times.

US Treasury Secretary John Snow defended the secret programme, carried out by the CIA and the Treasury, calling it "government at its best" and a valuable aid for fighting terrorism.

Snow confirmed that since just after the attacks on September 11 2001, the Treasury had been tapping into records of the Belgium-based Society for Worldwide Interbank Financial Telecommunication (Swift) for evidence of potential activity by terror groups.

"The legal basis for this subpoena is routine and absolutely clear," Treasury Under Secretary Stuart Levey told a hastily called news conference, adding that it was "a grave loss" that the surveillance programme had been revealed but indicated that it would continue.

Swift is a cooperative owned by the 7,800 financial institutions in more than 200 countries that use it. Its headquarters are in Brussels.

Levey said tens of thousands of transactions that had passed through Swift had been examined.
Swiss concerns

In addition to Democrats on Capitol Hill who blasted the programme as a threat to Americans' privacy and an example of the Bush administration's efforts to expand the power of the executive branch, Swiss commentators hardly welcomed the news.

Mark Pieth, a Swiss lawyer and a member of the three-man inquiry team into the UN oil-for-food scandal, wrote in the NZZ am Sonntag newspaper that a US legal order must have forced Swift to open its records – warning Swift that if it didn't comply, it would risk losing its licence for dealing with US transactions and banks.

In Switzerland 99 banks and 254 institutions are connected to Swift, with a daily transaction value of some SFr200 billion ($160 billion).

Although the Swiss Bankers Association agreed with a UBS spokesman that Swiss banking secrecy had not been endangered or violated, Hanspeter Thür, the Federal Data Protection Commissioner, said he was alarmed.

He said the data protection regulations covered not only banking secrecy but also whether such information should be able to be passed on.

US Treasury officials said Swift was exempt from US laws restricting government access to private financial records because the cooperative was considered a messaging service, not a bank or financial institution.

For its part, the Swiss National Bank said it had "no legal jurisdiction in Belgium".
Subpoenas

Swift said in a statement on its website that "Swift has to comply with valid subpoenas". It described the requests it received from the US Treasury as "compulsory subpoenas for limited sets of data" and said it "negotiated with the US Treasury over the scope and oversight of the subpoenas".

The statement noted that "Swift is overseen by a senior committee drawn from the G-10 central banks and has informed them of this matter". The G-10, or Group of 10, is made up of the world's major industrialised countries. The Swiss National Bank is also on the board of control.

Swift's board of directors is made up of 25 representatives from financial institutions, including two Swiss.

The deputy chairman, Stephan Zimmermann, is from the global wealth management and business banking division of UBS AG in Zurich, and Yves Maas is from the Credit Suisse Group.

UBS declined to comment, but James Nason from the Swiss Bankers Association said his group was "surprised to discover that this activity was going on". He noted that Swiss banks adhere to agreed international standards to counter money laundering

http://www.swissinfo.org/eng/top_news/detail/CIA_has_access_to_Swiss_transactions.html?siteSect=106&sid=6846423&cKey=1151302785000

sale temps pour l'UBS de toutes façons... nos grosses banques sont en train de couler, les gens n'ont plus confiance alors mettent leur argent dans les petites banques locales.. ce que je vais faire aussi bientôt, passque c'est flippant

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sale temps pour l'UBS de toutes façons... nos grosses banques sont en train de couler, les gens n'ont plus confiance alors mettent leur argent dans les petites banques locales.. ce que je vais faire aussi bientôt, passque c'est flippant

le probleme c'est que les petites banques dependent aussi des grandes banques.... on n'a pas encore tout entendu... Les premieres a sortir leurs nombres rouges sont les grandes (qui sont boulverses mais arrivent a survivre quand meme) et les derniers dont on entendera seront les petites... qui vont recevoir aussi le coup mais a leur tour beaucoup d'entre elles n'auront pas autre choix que fermer leurs portes..)

..... et c'est un phenomene mondiale...